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Wednesday, 11 February 2004
Powell Cleans a Loser's Clock
Mood:  happy
During the Secretary of State's testimony before a Congressional committee today, some wanker from Ohio (Democratic Rep. Sherrod Brown) decided to take it upon himself to insinuate that the President was AWOL from his National Guard duties. Colin Powell then put him in his place, basically saying that he wouldn't dignify Brown's remarks with much more of a response than to say that he didn't know what he was talking about. Fantastic.

Slanderers like the anti-American truck-stop toilet Michael Moore and this chump from Ohio ought to shut their fucking mouths. Would they like to tell the families of National Guardsmen who are in Iraq tonight that their sons' and daughters' military service isn't legitimate? Even John Kerry suggested that those of his generation who went into the Guard were only trying to avoid service in Viet Nam. That may be, but the truth is that even National Guard units were called up and, despite the fact that Bush did not wish to go into the war, he would have been obligated to had it been necessary. Is he to blame because it was not? Is he to fairly be accused of dodging his duties when he trained for years as a fighter pilot? It's just wrong.

Guardsmen aren't cowards, then or now. They serve a vital role in our nation's defense. It's also true that they simultaneously pursue civilian lives of work and school and family-raising. George W. Bush worked hard to both serve his country in this way and to pursue his own ambitions in education and business. The National Guard knows this about its reservists and works to accomodate them, as is reasonable. The Guard did this for the future President, too, and it's nothing wrong or even suspect.

People need to lay off of this issue. It's a disgrace.


Posted by Toby Petzold at 11:13 PM CST | Post Comment | View Comments (2) | Permalink

Wednesday, 11 February 2004 - 11:36 PM CST

Name: sluggo

1. No guard units were deployed during the Viet Nam era, especially air national guard units.Only recently have guard units been tapped to help the over extended active duty forces. Dubya was able to bypass a long waiting list of aspirants to the air guard.

2. Bush was obligated to a number of things which he did not do according to his squadron commander.

3. Bush was not given flight status. There are several scenarios which have been brought up to account for this.
I don't suppose we need to go into it. He didn't train for years and seems to be confused over which type of plane he actually flew (first it's F-102's, then it's F-105's..big difference)

4. You can't have it both ways. It seems the more "conservative" and hawkish these fukks get, the more likely it is that their knee injuries, college deferments,national guard cotillions, and rich daddies kept them out of the shit. Now comes before the court of public opinion the rugged, heroic, man-of-the-people wrapped in the flag and a shiny new flight suit. If this pile of shit gets over on us again, it will at least prove to me that the american people are mongrelized and debased so deeply that fascism is what we truly deserve..all hail the plastic ceasars.

Thursday, 12 February 2004 - 12:36 AM CST

Name: Toby Petzold

Sluggo to (Neognostikos):

1. No guard units were deployed during the Viet Nam era, especially air national guard units.

(That's not true.)

Only recently have guard units been tapped to help the over extended active duty forces.

(That's not true, either.)

Dubya was able to bypass a long waiting list of aspirants to the air guard.

(I would agree with you.)

2. Bush was obligated to a number of things which he did not do according to his squadron commander.

(I think that's probably true, but the Guard is pretty flexible with those with other important commitments. Bush skipped out on some stuff, but made a lot of it back up.)

3. Bush was not given flight status.

(I'm pretty sure you're correct.)

There are several scenarios which have been brought up to account for this.
I don't suppose we need to go into it. He didn't train for years and seems to be confused over which type of plane he actually flew (first it's F-102's, then it's F-105's..big difference)

(You do agree, though, that there was such a plane as the F-102, right?)

4. You can't have it both ways. It seems the more "conservative" and hawkish these fukks get, the more likely it is that their knee injuries, college deferments,national guard cotillions, and rich daddies kept them out of the shit.

(Bush did not want to go to Viet Nam. That's true. But he didn't do what Clinton did, which was to play the Army like a bunch of suckers. Clinton was a real draft-dodger. Bush was a guy who served his country by training to fly fighter planes. Please admit that there's a real difference in character there.)

Now comes before the court of public opinion the rugged, heroic, man-of-the-people wrapped in the flag and a shiny new flight suit. If this pile of shit gets over on us again, it will at least prove to me that the american people are mongrelized and debased so deeply that fascism is what we truly deserve..all hail the plastic ceasars.

(You may get your wish, even if he loses.)

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