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Friday, 7 May 2004
A Word from a Correspondent
Deep Blade writes to say:

If they raze Abu Ghraib, as even Rumsfeld didn't disagree should be done in testimony today, I'll begin to see the US rising above its Iraqi mass-grave-era client, Saddam Hussein. Whose idea was it to take Saddam's gulag and use it as a prison, anyway?

It's pretty ridiculous to say that, if the United States will just raze Abu Ghraib, you'll begin to see us as being better than Saddam. Did you mean to write that? We are obviously on a higher moral plane than that psychopath, and what we are doing to liberate the Iraqi people is a beautiful demonstration of the superiority of our system. They are free to speak, worship, associate, and purchase as they please. A huge step forward in just a year.

It may be of symbolic interest to tear down Abu Ghraib, but so would renovating it into a top-notch school or museum. The Iraqis should consider transforming such buildings into working monuments to the future, as well as the past.

But you're only riding this because it is perceived as a slam on the President. I think it's time for the Left to take a breath and read the facts. Nobody cared about the abuses when they were first reported months ago; they only care now because there's [pretty] pictures to look at and swoon over.


Posted by Toby Petzold at 7:36 PM CDT | Post Comment | View Comments (1) | Permalink

Saturday, 8 May 2004 - 9:56 AM CDT

Name: Deep Blade
Home Page: http://journal.deepblade.net

You fail to compute the part about Saddam being a mass-grave-era client of the US.

The "moral planes" intersected in this relationship. When the United States Senate passed the Prevention of Genocide Act in 1988 (unanimously), the "psychopaths" in the Reagan administration with its national security advisor Colin Powell felt that the US-Saddam relationship was so important they had to kill the legislation, which they did.

Freedom of religion and the press in Iraq? Clearly, Saddam's lid came off last year. But if you follow Bremer's edicts, you see a picture where the US has tried to screw the lid back on, quite stupidly at times I might add. The whole al Sadr business really inflamed when Bremer shut down his newspaper. With the prison pictures out, it's hard to imagine what al Sadr was printing that could have been so dangerous to the Americans that they haven't now done to themselves.

Yes, symbolic interest. You're right, but that's bigger than you make it sound. Yes, they should "transform" that site. I still say tear it down. Sure, put in something new. Rumsfeld says it should be up to the Iraqis.

As for reporting abuses, the mainstream human rights groups Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch have been reporting on abuse of US detainees for years. I have tons of references on my site, including a major Amnesty International report published in March. Here's where I'll 100% agree with you--nobody cared until there were pictures.

It's not just a perceived slam, it's a failure of the whole chain of command. Bush is disgusted, right? Rumsfeld squirmed like his pants were full of something under questioning by John McCain about the decision-making ladder. Eventually that squirming has to reach Bush. Whose idea was it to take Saddam's gulag and use it as a gulag, anyway?


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