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Wednesday, 19 October 2005
Succinctitude
Mood:  on fire
I read this essay by Jacob Weisberg earlier today and decided he has made the finest distillation yet of what the Plame Unpleasantness is all about:

You need a pretty low opinion of people in the White House to imagine they would knowingly foster the possible assassination of CIA assets in other countries for the sake of retaliation against someone who wrote an op-ed they didn't like in the New York Times.
That's what it's all about right there. The first and last person who says this fucking thing was about revenge against Joe Wilson is Joe Wilson himself. Interestingly enough, he is the one who has committed the crime which he attributes to his and his wife's enemies. If that isn't clear to you yet, don't worry. I'll help you out.


Posted by Toby Petzold at 9:17 PM CDT | Post Comment | View Comments (6) | Permalink

Wednesday, 19 October 2005 - 10:14 PM CDT

Name: Rider

Now here's the lie that immediately preceded the sentence you quoted:

"But after two years of digging, no evidence has emerged that anyone who worked for Bush and talked to reporters about Plame—namely Rove or Scooter Libby, the vice president's chief of staff—knew she was undercover. And as nasty as they might be, it's not really thinkable that they would have known."

Oh no, it's not really thinkable, except for the fact that the mention of her CIA position on the memo which circulated aboard Air Force One was marked SECRET in the margin. They knew EXACTLY what they were doing. They are despicable. You are defending traitors to America. Sorry you have to hear that from a lefty, but nobody from your side seems to have the decency to call them what they are.

Here are a couple of places where you can disabuse yourself of the oft-repeated lies about Mr. Wilson:

http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/10/19/142419/59

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/19/leak-myths/

The continual and endless repetition of these same lies has by this point become quite silly and annoying. No doubt this gives comfort to W-worshippers in an otherwise comfortless hour, but it's simply got to stop. This hopefully will dawn on you when you discover that the prosecutor has indicted neither Mr. Wilson nor his wife. Duh.

Wednesday, 19 October 2005 - 10:35 PM CDT

Name: Rider

"Interestingly enough, he is the one who has committed the crime which he attributes to his and his wife's enemies. If that isn't clear to you yet, don't worry. I'll help you out."

No, I'll help you out. Novak outed her as "a CIA operative."

Does that mean she was undercover? No. It could have meant that she was a desk analyst.

So, did Wilson reveal that she was undercover? No, of course not. Even after Novak's article he was very circumspect about exactly what her role was.

For years the Wilsons had told their friends that Valerie worked in the private sector for an energy consulting firm. If she really was working for the CIA but claiming to work for a private sector energy firm, that could only mean that the energy firm was her cover. CIA desk analysts don't have covers. "A CIA operative" with a cover is by definition an undercover agent. Got it?

Wednesday, 19 October 2005 - 11:11 PM CDT

Name: TP

Rider:

CIA desk analysts don't have covers.

And NOCs sometimes become desk analysts who effectively lose their status as actively-concealed agents. I say this because it is clear that the CIA did not adequately and proactively protect her identity. In fact, they confirmed her employment to several members of the press.

Let's dispense with the self-righteous crap about how this so-called leak has irredeemably damaged our country's network of undercover assets abroad. Plame was a WMD analyst who got her husband a gig which she probably couldn't pull off herself on account of her gender.

Thursday, 20 October 2005 - 1:04 PM CDT

Name: Mr. Spank
Home Page: http://google this quote

He needs much more that (sic) 20 or 30 minutes...We now have traffic to encounter to go to and from a location of his choise (sic), followed by wait service from the restaurant staff, eating, etc. Thank you."

Thursday, 20 October 2005 - 4:42 PM CDT

Name: Rider

Forpityssake, make up your mind. Was there a leak ("...he is the one who has committed the crime..."), or wasn't there ("this so-called leak")?

"[T]he CIA did not not adequately and proactively protect her identity.In fact, they confirmed her employment to several members of the press." Name one. Name a member of the press to whom the CIA confirmed her employment prior to Novak's article outing her. That's bullshit. The CIA made several calls to Novak begging him not to print this when he called to ask them to confirm it, which they refused to do.

Her employment with the CIA was marked "S/NF" on the Air Force One memo, indicating that it was TOP SECRET and not even to be shared with (friendly) foreign intelligence services. If it wasn't even to be shared with British intelligence, for example, it wasn't to be shared with any journalist that called up, including Novak. And it damned sure wasn't common knowledge at cocktail parties. Her friends and neighbors had no idea she worked for the CIA.

I'll stop what you call "the self-righteous crap" when ANYONE from your side has the decency to call these White House traitors out for selling out a deep-cover American CIA officer. Until then, you'll just have to keep hearing it from lefties.

Friday, 21 October 2005 - 11:08 PM CDT

Name: sluggo

and the kunt miller stayed in jail to protect a source
she can't even remember...

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