Friday, 6 August 2004 - 11:53 AM CDT
Name:
Americas Nemesis
'Nor do I hide behind some fake name like you do. If you weren't a coward, you'd tell me your name. So why don't you?'
See? You just can't help but be a lying son of a bitch.
I've already explained many, many times why I've kept this particular name over at Eschaton, often directly to you yourself: To recap, because you are too dishonest to do so, the reasons are
a.) Because it guarantees attention from a certain other troll, thus pulling him away from his own "fishing" efforts.
b.) In the interests of consistency, so for both people there, and you back here in your own cesspit can identify over time the same poster.
c.) And here?s the best one, although ?America?s Nemesis? and ?Toby Petzold? both have about the same identifying value as each other (Remember ?Ricky Vandal?? Well, if you stopped lying long enough to admit that I never claimed he was you, you would remember that the troll using his name even set up an entire blog and ran with it for months pushing that claim, until Blogger finally realised it was a case of identity theft), you somehow neglect to mention that when you were spreading your asshole lies about having knowledge of my personal health, I provided you with a CONTACT EMAIL ADDRESS, and challenged you to take it off board and discuss it like a man directly if you really thought you knew something. See, I?ve put it up for you again just to remind you what you were too cowardly to use. For extra fun points, Google search how many threads I?ve used it in, and see how many times your name appears in said thread. And then think of excuses for why you never saw it or cared to use it.
d.) But then, being lectured by honesty at all by someone who admits to just trolling is fucking laughable. Hey, remember this thread where you didn?t even read what the topic was?
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.php?user=atrios&comment=108963145569547416
And by an amazing coincidence, it contains yet another repetition of the lie in part c.)
?Nemesis, you know very well that I can't, in good conscience, argue with you on account of your special situation. So, please stop egging me on. And if your friends here knew better (and maybe they do, which makes it especially sick!), they wouldn't encourage your outbursts, either.?
Would this be the special situation that you claimed no one cared about in this comment here?
?Numbnuts, contrary to what you believe in your laughable delusions of grandeur, no one cares what I said or suggested about you and your fucking skull and what did or didn't happen to it. Do you think I am going to waste any more of my time than I am right now explaining this to you? How about arguing some actual issues instead of pursuing this pathetic non-issue??
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.php?user=atrios&comment=109029485311773488
Ahah-ha-ha, *ahem*
Followed by a long discussion on... wait, that experience was short that day, because as everyone can see you ran off like a dishonest piece of weasely crap, away from the issues and my head and all, after being called on that day?s verminery: But there?s more! How about this thread
http://www.haloscan.com/comments.php?user=atrios&comment=109166147251133958
where you choose to illustrate just what a caring person you are about that ?issue? once more all the same, by
a.) Lying about having knowledge of ?it? again, which you don?t. It?s a lie you made up, and then pretended to care about.
b.) Claiming to have saved evidence of it, and then refusing to provide it?
c.) Lying once more here on your own blog, even though I provide evidence of both your repeating the claim and previously disowning the same claim over there and here.
d.) And where did I provide it? Why in the very thread I linked to at the Eschaton thread above you can see where I said it was, but which has since been miraculously scrubbed. Perhaps because it contained the evidence of lying shown above, hmm? Although so far the Edwards comments remain up, that?s probably only because I admitted that I could not find archives which contained the comments in question to present the actual evidence preventing cheap shots such as those.
e.) And if that wasn?t enough, I then proved you raced off from Eschaton to scrub the posting of the commentary made in the above thread too, via time-stamped screen grabs of me actually posting it, and then pointing out how it too mysteriously disappeared shortly after
That?s an incredible amount of assholery from you, and all in just one thread, wouldn?t you say? And are people supposed to respect you because of it? Of course, we could just accept that you are there to troll? but then again, you have a whole weblog full of the same bullshit here too. You make the same illogical, ill researched, ill defined or ill-conceived claims over and over again. And you respond to criticism in exactly the same way here too:
? Why would I not know the date range of the Holocaust? I can't imagine that the Holocaust is of any interest to you, anyway, except as an event that you can deny.?
From said ?Pure Stump? thread. Look closely folks: This is how honesty works?
1.) You make a claim about Eschaton posters claiming that denying the Jews a country of their own is typical left wing bullshit, and that decent people want the Jews to have their own homeland
2.) When it is pointed out to you, via a Wikpedia link, that the first Zionists were socialists, and when hints are dropped to a certain ?K? word which shows the socialist tradition carrying on way into Israel?s actual history, you then repeat the slur about lefties hating Jews.
3.) When someone asks you how that theory ties in with the Madagascar Plan, you weasel away from answering, because you don?t know what that was.
4.) Then when it?s pointed out that it was an earlier idea of the Nazi?s in fact to send all the Jews to a country of their own, by forcing them all to go to Madagascar, you weasel away again by making vague references to The Final Solution and trying to smear Liberals with it by association with Chamberlain and appeasement or some other such rot.
5.) When called on when you think The Final Solution (that is, the mass extermination of Jews, the disabled, blacks and others) actually started, you refuse to address the ?Issue? anymore
6.) Of course, that doesn?t stop you resurrecting said smear later, eh oh honest Toby? And needless to say, if I were to rummage out my old BA (Hons) Politics documents for the year long module I completed called ?Industrialisation and The Holocaust? as part of it, looking at the social and economic background to that tragedy in post Weimer Germany, as well talking about (say) my impressions of watching Shoah all the way through, well? the way you respond to that is with more smears, right? Obviously I?m a holocaust denier!
Because that?s what HONESTY is in Toby land. You see, even if I've misremembered all of that particular "Debate about issues" that Toby and I had (and I don't believe I have), for Toby's claims to be true, my own provable academic history ALSO has to be false, along with anything else I can dig up which shows the opposite. Now of course he was only trying to make an honest point with evidence he could back up, when he claimed what he did above, don't you think? Surely he has SOME evidence I'm a Holocaust Denier, some decent reason for making that claim, even if he refuses to show it to anyone, Or is it some other option at work here, perhaps?
And, ahah-ha-ha, if I don't say what that option might be, that automatically makes me Toby-clever, see? Because innuendo is better than intelligence, apparently.
Tell you what Toby, if you want true honesty? I?ve mentioned it before on Eschaton but I?ll say it again now in case you missed it. In real life I?m a Street Fundraiser for charity, raising money for all those places you say you care about but are too stupid and dishonest to ever learn anything about. Every day I meet arseholes like you, who think making a ?funny? to their friends is somehow worth more than what I and my companions do? We get attacked by racists, coming out of the Public Houses they waste their days in drunk, shouting ?What about doing something for that place or this? You don?t really care about any of this?.... In Bedminster people were spitting on us. And of course, for the sake of the charity involved, we don?t sully their good names by getting involved in such squabbles. And yet YOU dare lecture ME on human decency, you who can?t even tell the truth on your own fucking blog?
Well, once more we have an email address you can contact me on: next time you are in the UK, drop me a line, and I?ll make a point of meeting you in person so I can spit in your face myself: You see, there are Holocaust deniers, and they truly are scum? but lower even than them are people like you who say to those work every day to ensure ?Never again? that in fact they are ?Not at all?: Those who defy the Holocaust you deny even existence, and you do it with cheap shots and lies about personal health too.
Well Toby, I truly don?t lie. And I?ve presented evidence enough time after time that you are human garbage. Dangling Truth before the noses of stupid, base animals: and then laughing as they get hooked and reveal what slimy gasping things they really are when yanked out of their safe environments. I call it ?Shit-Fishing?. And I?m going to keep on doing it, in my own time and at my own pace, irrespective of what you say. You won?t be able to resist the bait, the urge to bite and be an asshole: Wasting my time mud-wrestling with trolls? You personally help keep me sane knowing that when I can take both the charity jacket and the gloves off, assholes like you truly don?t have a leg to stand on... When ever some monkey on the street says ?Why should I donate to charities working in Iraq?? and spins some bullshit about what they think is happening there, instead of getting angry or upset at the ignorance and stupidity of it, I?ll just think ?That?s a Petzshit-fish right there?, and send them on their way without thinking any further about them? but later in the evening, well, I would say I get to gut the real thing; But the real thing doesn?t even have enough guts to stand by the morality he lays claim to. So instead it?s more accurate to say that I get to truly debate the "issues" with all the sneering contempt the other side deserves. And I can get as personal as I like too.
So here?s a personal thanks to you, Toby Petzold, dishonest asshole extraordinaire, for all your support?! And Christian Aid, C.A.R.E., Plan International, Greenpeace, Friends Of The Earth, Barnardo?s and many, many more charities I will work with again or may work with in the future thank you too. But hey, without assholes like you, Charities really, truly wouldn?t have any need to exist, so it?s the least you could do to keep their workers motivated whilst trying to undo the consequences of world assholery.
And I really do expect only the least from you Toby, so please don't disappoint us even in only that: But I think I can safely say, you won't... After all, why change the habits of a lifetime?