Friday, 7 January 2005 - 10:22 PM CST

Well put, if you like to oversimplify things and make harsh statements. The fact is that torture is not as useful as some might think. It didn't help the Nazis break down resistance networks. Torture didn't keep the Shah in power and it doesn't help the Israelis quell the native uprising in their own country. It is an approach that reeks of desperation and opens up a pandoras box of new threats and dangerous realities. It is true that the people we are fighting are not signitories of the Geneva convention. In fact, they can be classified as Francs Tireurs, a legal term for un-uniformed combatants that are not part of an organized military force of a recognized nation-state. As such, they can be summarily executed. That is a different discussion altogether.
Still there is a practical aspect of the issue that no one on either side seems to be discussing. The fact is that intelligence extracted under torture is almost completely unreliable. Also, true to form. The current leadership keeps making mistake after mistake in analyzing the enemy. They think that there is a chain of command with detailed control over operations. It seems to be their flawed opinion that you can "roll up" the network by starting at one point and moving upward. This is a sad and costly error. The name of the game is leaderless resistance and most cells only encompass a few members. These cells are never in contact with each other and usually completely oblivious to the existence of other cells.
Perhaps we can begin discussing the systematic rape and torture of the childeren of these detainees, in front of their very eyes, of course. After all, we are fighting a war against savages. Then we'll really be able to stand tall in the world.
fukking idiots.

Saturday, 8 January 2005 - 3:08 AM CST

Excellent remarks, Sluggo.

You may be right about torture and intelligence-gathering, but since a lot of these savages don't seem to be in it for the money, why not purify their flesh a little? Pain purifies.

If it gets around that the US military might be a little beyond the censure and the clucking and moaning of the Leftists and their Big Media tools, that is to our advantage. These jihadi psychopaths think our military is absolutely responsive and responsible to the Kerrion types in our society. They believe our fighting men and women may pull short of the little brutalities that might get their attention if the anti-war types can be dragged into it.

But forget all that. Let those cells think our men might go off the reservation. Let that torture them.

Saturday, 8 January 2005 - 10:20 PM CST

I stand by what I said about oversimplification and extreme statements. We need to think this through. The only power we can rightly command is that we are on the side of light and they are on the side of darkness. The world sees what we do and they have had a very good opinion of us for the most part.

That being said, who among us would command honorable men to abandon everyting the West holds dear and commit atrocities on our behalf. Remember that they will walk among us when this war is over.

I warn anyone who would listen. Our honor and our compassion are all that seperate us from these savages.
Do not villify dissent.

Sol Invictus.